Ave Maria in the Afternoon – September 22, 2025 – Hour 2
We explore the Unknown Sorrows of Mary with Steve Ray and Doug Keck looks at Erika Kirk’s message of forgiveness to her husband’s killer.
Erika Kirk’s Message of Forgiveness
At Charlie Kirk’s memorial service this weekend, his widow Erika shared a message of forgiveness for the shooter. This is by no means the first time Christians have publicly expressed forgiveness after atrocities – we saw something similar after the Charleston Church shooting, and on many other occasions. We talk more about forgiveness with Doug Keck.

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The Unknown Sorrows of Mary
The Church devotes October to remembering the Seven Sorrows of Mary, but Mary suffered far more sorrows than those seven. Steve Ray joins us with a reflection on the Unknown Sorrows of Mary.

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