Kresta in the Afternoon – December 24, 2019 – Hour 1

  • Description: In this hour of the 2019 Countdown we talk with a survivor of the Columbine massacre and discuss the question of "spiritual, but not religious."

+  2019 Countdown #29: How the Tragedy of Columbine Forced me to consider God

  • Description: Sr. Mary Gianna was a Sophomore at Columbine High School in 1999, the year of the massacre. She usually spent her lunch period in the library but on that fateful day, she suddenly had an overwhelming urge to leave the building. Up to that point, she had never really considered the existence of God – but the tragedy forced her to ask why she was spared. She joins us with her story.
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    • Sr. Mary Gianna
      Sr Mary Giana is a sister with Disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ. She was a sophomore at Columbine High the year of the massacre. Visit and
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+  2019 Countdown #28: Spiritual but not Religious? (2 segments)

  • Description: It’s human nature for us to yearn for something beyond this world. But many people today are skeptical of organized religion and declare themselves to be spiritual but not religious. How can we find meaning in a material world? Why are we attracted to things beyond? We talk with Fr. John Bartunek.
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    • Fr. John Bartunek
      Fr. John Bartunek is the author most recently of Spiritual but Not Religious: The Search for Meaning in a Material World.. He comes from an evangelical Christian background and became a member of the Catholic Church in 1991. After spending time as a teacher, coach, and actor, he entered the religious Congregation of the Legionaries of Christ in 1993 and was ordained in 2003, and earned his doctorate in moral theology in 2010. He provided spiritual support on the set of Mel Gibson’s “The Passion of the Christ.”
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    • Spiritual but Not Religious: The Search for Meaning in a Material World

      A Guide for Exploring the Horizons of Your Heart More people than ever find themselves unfulfilled by merely material abundance and prosperity. More people than ever find their hearts yearning for some kind of satisfaction beyond swiping right or going viral. This is because the human soul was made for more than video games, social media, SMS messages, and flashy distractions. This book, written with the warmth, sincerity, and clarity characteristic of Father Bartunek’s many popular books, opens the door to a rediscovery of the spiritual landscape present in every human heart. Maybe you are spiritually restless yourself. Maybe you know others who are, and you want to connect with them better. In either case, this book is for you. It will take you where few dare to go through a fearless exploration of questions like these:

      • Why does “spirituality” attract us, and what does that word really mean?
      • What is the real difference between “spirituality” and “religion”?
      • Aren’t all religions basically the same?
      • How is it possible to be “religious but not spiritual”?
      • What are the implications of choosing to be “spiritual but not religious”?
      • Does truth enrich or impoverish our spiritual life?
      Father Bartunek takes you on a tour of your own soul through his reflections on these themes and more, weaving together philosophy, natural theology, personal experiences, and analyses of selected works of art to make this a truly one-of-a-kind book. You won’t read this book and move on. You will read this book and grow, and then you will want to dip back into it again and again, to keep on growing. It’s a book for a lifetime. The horizons of the heart are vast, and often treacherous – which is one reason why so many people today hesitate to explore them. Father Bartunek is a wise guide who leads you deeper into your own self as he shows you how to continue your unique search for lasting meaning in an overly materialized world. (learn more)

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