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Kresta in the Afternoon – May 20, 2021 – Hour 1

Al looks at the legacy of Plessy v Ferguson and talks with Peter Herbeck about God’s punishment – and glory.

Kresta Comments: The Great Dissenters

On May 18, 1896 the Supreme Court handed down one of its most infamous decisions – Plessy v. Ferguson, which codified the idea of “separate but equal.” It had one dissenter – John Harlan. What does he have in common with the dissenters in other major cases? Al dives in.

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The “Great Dissenter”: Justice John Marshall Harlan the First as a Role Model of Resistance in a Post-Constitutional Age

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The Punishment and Glory of God   

The Scriptures say that everything God does is in love – even judgment. Because it is through judgment that we learn righteousness. St. Bernadine of Siena, whose feast we celebrate today, expanded on this when he reflected on Punishment and Glory – when we ignore God, we experience punishment but are also shown his Glory. Peter Herbeck talks it over.  

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St. Bernardine of Siena

Peter Herbeck is the vice president and director of missions for Renewal Ministries. For more than thirty years, he has been actively involved in evangelization and Catholic renewal throughout the US, Canada, Africa, and Eastern Europe. Peter is a co-host for the weekly television programs The Choices We Face and Crossing the Goal. He also hosts the daily radio show Fire on the Earth. Visit

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