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Kresta in the Afternoon – May 11, 2021 – Hour 2

Fr. Charlie Fox discusses what it means to be pastoral and Fr. Goran Jovicic explains why a 1933 treaty with the Nazis matters today.

What does it mean to Be Pastoral?

Yesterday several German pastors went ahead with their plan to bless same-sex unions. Many would say this is a pastoral decision, meant to reach out to them in love. But what does it mean to be truly pastoral? Fr. Charles Fox joins us.

Fr. Charles Fox is an assistant professor of theology at Sacred Heart Major Seminary, Detroit. He holds an S.T.D. in dogmatic theology from the Pontifical University of St. Thomas Aquinas (Angelicum), Rome. He is also chaplain and a board member of St. Paul Evangelization Institute, headquartered in Warren, MI.

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What does it mean to be “pastoral?”

What does it mean to love in an age of “tolerance”?

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Why a 1933 Treaty Suddenly Matters in Germany

If Catholic bishops in Germany were to be declared in schism amid a row over same-sex blessings and other doctrinal issues, the German government would recognize them to have lost the right to both oversee their dioceses and to administer the billions collected annually in the country’s Church tax, and it’s all because of a 1933 treaty signed between the Holy See and Germany’s Nazi government. Fr. Goran Jovicic explains.

Fr. Goran Jovicic is a professor of theology and Canon Law at St. Patrick’s Seminary in Menlo Park, California. Visit

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If German bishops go into schism, the Reichskonkordat comes into play

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