Skip links

Kresta in the Afternoon – December 28, 2021 – Hour 2

In this hour of the countdown, we talk with John Love about John of the Cross’ Dark Night of the Soul, and Scott Ellsworth tells the story of the 1921 Tulsa Race Riots.


2021 Kresta in the Afternoon Countdown


#18 – St. John of the Cross: The Dark Night of the Soul


Even before the pandemic, it was easy to browse through the news headlines and find yourself asking “where is God?” Most of us have probably experienced this time of spiritual dryness, sometimes called the Dark Night of the Soul. St. John of the Cross explored this in a poem of the same name. His feast was yesterday, and today we talk about it with Dr. John Love.

Dr. John Love is an associate professor of systemic and moral theology at Mount St. Mary’s Seminary in Emmetsburg, Maryland. He wrote his doctoral thesis on the Eucharistic spirituality of St. John of the Cross. He’s the husband of Al’s eldest daughter Alexis and they have eight children.

Listen to this segment


#17 – What made Black Wall Street?

This week America has been commemorating the 100th anniversary of the Tulsa race riot, also known as the Black Wall Street Massacre. It destroyed more than 35 square blocks of what was then the wealthiest Black community in the US and “officially” left 36 people dead, though modern estimates are higher. Scott Ellsworth tells the story.

Links for this segment

What the Tulsa Race Massacre Destroyed

Tulsa Church Ledger Preserves Stories of Faith After Historic Massacre

Tulsa’s ‘Black Wall Street’ Flourished as a Self-Contained Hub in Early 1900s

‘They didn’t talk about it’: how a historian helped Tulsa confront the horror of its past

Scott Ellsworth is a lecturer at the University of Michigan in the Department of Afroamerican and African studies. He’s the author of Death in a Promised Land, the first comprehensive history of the 1921 Tulsa massacre, and the new book The Ground Breaking: The Tulsa Race Massacre and an American City’s Search for Justice. Follow him on Twitter @ScottEAuthor  

Listen to this segment

Share with Friends: