Ave Maria in the Afternoon – April 22, 2025 – Hour 2
We continue our look at the life and legacy of Pope Francis. Dr. Greg Popcak discusses his mixed messaging on families, Deacon Harold-Burke Sivers reflects on the loss of a father, and we get a special tribute with Toledo Bishop Daniel Thomas.
Pope Francis’ Mixed Messaging on Families
Pope Francis spoke often on the family, emphasizing the importance of kindness and family time. But in other words and actions, he seemed to overlook the larger importance of family life in building the Church. Greg Popcak joins us with more.

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Toledo Bishop Honors Pope Francis
The death of a pope impacts all Catholics, but it has special significance for the Church’s bishops. Toledo Bishop Daniel Thomas joins us.

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Losing a Spiritual Father
The loss of a pope means the loss of a spiritual father for all Catholics. Deacon Harold Burke-Sivers joins us to reflect.

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Pope Francis’ Vision for the Church
It will take years to fully understand the lasting legacy of Pope Francis’ papacy. But John Pinheiro has identified three key areas of emphasis from his papacy, all of which touch on the dignity of the human person. He joins us.

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